1 00:00:01,594 --> 00:00:19,494 This series presents information based in part on theory and conjecture. 2 00:00:19,494 --> 00:00:24,009 The producer's purpose is to suggest some possible explanations, but not necessarily 3 00:00:24,009 --> 00:00:29,004 the only ones to the mysteries we will examine. 4 00:00:37,994 --> 00:00:47,983 The sound can only be described as otherworldly, but the source is as commonplace as the ground we walk on, the air we breathe. 5 00:00:48,981 --> 00:01:02,966 The sound comes from plants, through sensitive electronic devices which translate fluctuations of energy. Some call it a voice. 6 00:01:02,966 --> 00:01:08,959 Whatever it is, it raises the astonishing possibility that plants can communicate. 7 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:22,944 If plants can communicate, what are they saying? To whom or what are they talking? And how can we communicate with them? 8 00:01:22,944 --> 00:01:27,938 The sound is from the ground. 9 00:01:32,933 --> 00:01:42,922 You'll see that plants can tell you different stories about themselves. As you feel them, that's right, they do talk. Learn how to talk to them. 10 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:52,910 Okay everybody, let's have some fun now. You take your hand and just put it above the plant and just do this slowly. 11 00:01:52,910 --> 00:02:05,896 Do plants feel? Children often have an easier time grasping a new concept. They tend to be less skeptical, more accepting of phenomena outside the normal range of human experience. 12 00:02:06,895 --> 00:02:14,886 It's an energy that the plant is sending back to you. As you have a heart in your heart. 13 00:02:14,886 --> 00:02:19,880 Marcel Vogel believes that plants do have feelings, feelings that man can share. 14 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:36,862 Vogel is a research chemist in San Jose, California. He has devoted years to studying plant behavior with sophisticated machines and with what he calls his mind's inner eye. 15 00:02:37,861 --> 00:02:47,849 The green thumbs among us have always known there was more to growing things than the right alchemy of soil, water and sunshine. 16 00:02:47,849 --> 00:02:56,839 They seem to have some special communion with plants and ability to make them thrive. The so-called brown thumbs don't seem to be able to do that. 17 00:02:56,839 --> 00:03:01,834 Yet they sometimes laugh when the green thumbs talk lovingly to their plants. 18 00:03:01,834 --> 00:03:09,825 Now we have a startling new concept that these simple life forms have been listening and are listening still. 19 00:03:12,822 --> 00:03:17,816 No room decor is considered complete these days unless it includes something green and living. 20 00:03:18,815 --> 00:03:29,803 It may just be a fad or the urban dwellers minor rebellion at too much steel and concrete or the roots may be deeper touching something forgotten in many of us. 21 00:03:30,802 --> 00:03:39,792 Whatever it is plants are big business and trained minds are beginning to pay attention to a mysterious new aspect of the green world around us. 22 00:03:40,791 --> 00:03:45,785 The Denver Botanical Garden provides a unique environment for plants. 23 00:03:45,785 --> 00:03:52,777 Music played a major role in an experiment with green life which startled the scientific community. 24 00:03:52,777 --> 00:04:02,766 The experiment led to the astonishing conclusion that plants have perceptions not unlike human senses and that they respond dramatically to certain sounds. 25 00:04:03,765 --> 00:04:15,752 Dorothy Retellick's passion is music. After raising her family she returned to college to complete her degree in that subject. 26 00:04:15,752 --> 00:04:24,742 She also studied biology and a sympathetic teacher allowed her to combine her two interests in one project. 27 00:04:25,741 --> 00:04:32,733 Mrs. Retellick had always felt an affinity for plants. They were as much a part of her world as music. 28 00:04:32,733 --> 00:04:38,726 Mrs. Retellick theorized that in subtle ways plants might share her sensitivity to sound. 29 00:04:38,726 --> 00:04:46,717 Harsh music had always bothered Mrs. Retellick. Could it be that plants also preferred one sound to another? 30 00:04:54,709 --> 00:05:00,702 Music played a major role in the development of green life. 31 00:05:04,698 --> 00:05:13,688 The experiment she devised to test her question has been duplicated many times almost always with the same remarkable results. 32 00:05:14,686 --> 00:05:26,673 I always used 75 plants in every experiment. There were some vegetable plants, some flowering plants. 33 00:05:26,673 --> 00:05:42,655 I used green beans, squash. For the filming I used our Colorado carnations, petunias, marigolds. 34 00:05:42,655 --> 00:05:51,645 I used a great great many different kinds of plants so it is not just by chance that these things are happening. 35 00:05:57,639 --> 00:06:03,632 Mrs. Retellick created two distinct environments for her test plants. 36 00:06:03,632 --> 00:06:12,622 Water levels were kept the same in both. Temperature and lighting were identical. 37 00:06:15,619 --> 00:06:24,609 Only one element was different. Semi-classical music was played into one. Hard rock into the other. 38 00:06:25,608 --> 00:06:33,599 In the chamber with soft music the plants leaned toward the speaker, seeming to draw strength from the melodious sounds. 39 00:06:33,599 --> 00:06:51,579 Music played in the chamber with rock music. The plants shrank away and eventually died. 40 00:06:51,579 --> 00:06:59,570 The time-lapse photography represents the reactions of the plants over several days. The results are unmistakable. 41 00:07:03,566 --> 00:07:11,557 Test conditions could only mean that it was the quality of the music, not the volume, that determined the reaction of the plants. 42 00:07:11,557 --> 00:07:15,552 The plants, it seems to me, are trying to tell us something. 43 00:07:15,552 --> 00:07:23,543 If plants hear, how do they hear? Certainly there's nothing in the plant world like the human ear and mind, but perhaps there's something else. 44 00:07:23,543 --> 00:07:27,539 A way of hearing that doesn't involve receiving and interpreting sound waves. 45 00:07:27,539 --> 00:07:35,530 What we call a sound wave is merely one form of energy, but scientists know that energy takes many forms. 46 00:07:37,528 --> 00:07:44,520 Kendall Johnson is a specialist in Curly and Photography, a technique for making the invisible visible. 47 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:53,510 Curly and Photography is the popular name for maybe what is better known as electrical photography. 48 00:07:54,509 --> 00:08:04,498 Think about putting a leaf on a piece of film, lay the film on the dresser, the table in your house, and sneak up on the little leaf and spark it. 49 00:08:04,498 --> 00:08:13,488 And when you develop the film in the normal way, what results is an image on a film that looks very much like the leaf. 50 00:08:24,476 --> 00:08:33,466 Through the work of Kendall Johnson and others, a new world has been opened for exploration. 51 00:08:33,466 --> 00:08:42,456 Perhaps the aura captured photographically is the force others say they have felt with their hands, recognized in their mind's eye. 52 00:08:53,444 --> 00:09:13,421 One fantastic experience we had was simply photographing the discharge that takes place in the atmosphere, in the air. 53 00:09:13,421 --> 00:09:21,413 Air is very necessary for these images. If there's no air, if there's no atmosphere, there's no image. 54 00:09:22,411 --> 00:09:29,404 We simply exposed the film to this discharge, and the result was a patterning that was incredible. 55 00:09:29,404 --> 00:09:44,387 It looked very much like a scene on the desert in the winter, a zen garden, the way trees grow, and the impact of that image still is very vivid in my mind. 56 00:09:44,387 --> 00:09:57,373 And I wonder, is this saying something about the way patterns of energy perhaps pre-define the way physically things develop? 57 00:09:57,373 --> 00:10:14,354 Curly and photography not only creates these beautiful designs of energy, but it becomes very interesting when people interact with objects when these images are made. 58 00:10:15,353 --> 00:10:21,346 One example of that would be what we call the green thumb series of experiments. 59 00:10:21,346 --> 00:10:33,333 We would pluck a leaf from a plant and make a picture, and then we'd scratch it, and then we'd make another image on film. 60 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:39,326 And what would usually happen is that over a period of time the leaf would gradually fade. 61 00:10:39,326 --> 00:10:53,310 But what we do then is using the same type of leaf, ask someone who had the reputation of having a green thumb, somebody that can grow anything. 62 00:10:53,310 --> 00:11:09,293 We ask them to hold their hand above the mutilated leaf, and with many of these people, rather than the leaf becoming dimmer, it actually became more brilliant. 63 00:11:09,293 --> 00:11:16,285 The profound implication is that the energy depicted by Curly and photography works both ways. 64 00:11:16,285 --> 00:11:22,278 The finger of someone noted for skill and sensitivity with plants has a bright aura. 65 00:11:22,278 --> 00:11:28,272 The finger of a person who's had little success with plants represents a marked contrast. 66 00:11:28,272 --> 00:11:38,261 Maybe having a green thumb or a brown thumb means more than anyone realized that a touch can convey as much information as volumes of words. 67 00:11:39,259 --> 00:12:00,236 If somewhere in between this very personal world, one that I feel, one that I live in, and the other world that we, the ordinary world that we live in every day, that's me and the world's out there, there's this whole new other possibility. 68 00:12:00,236 --> 00:12:03,233 And that's very exciting. 69 00:12:03,233 --> 00:12:11,224 Can plants also speak? If so, can we learn to decipher this other voice? 70 00:12:16,218 --> 00:12:23,211 For the lover of things that grow, the ultimate would be to learn that plants have a language that can be learned. 71 00:12:24,210 --> 00:12:32,201 It would satisfy the needs of those who touch and complete that miraculous chemistry between man and plant. 72 00:12:44,187 --> 00:12:51,180 Aristotle and Plutarch thought that trees had perceptions, that they were capable of passion and reason. 73 00:12:51,180 --> 00:12:55,175 Modern thinkers believe they may not have been far off. 74 00:13:00,170 --> 00:13:05,164 Cleve Baxter has spent more than 25 years researching the behavior of plants. 75 00:13:05,164 --> 00:13:12,156 Right now we're going to use a pair of electrodes that are regularly used on people but now are mounted between this C-clamp. 76 00:13:12,156 --> 00:13:18,150 Baxter is a polygraph expert and has conducted lie detector tests for the Army and the CIA. 77 00:13:18,150 --> 00:13:22,145 The polygraph is essential to his work with plants. 78 00:13:24,143 --> 00:13:30,136 This is a conventional piece of polygraph equipment of which we're using only one third, the galvanic skin response section. 79 00:13:30,136 --> 00:13:40,125 Now I'm going to activate the chart drive on the equipment and turn up the sensitivity and balance in the plant between these electrodes. 80 00:13:40,125 --> 00:13:44,121 Now tracing we're getting now represents the plant. 81 00:13:51,113 --> 00:14:02,101 Right now I'm going to take a scalpel and try to get underneath the skin level of my hand, see if the pain first of cutting causes any change in the plant. 82 00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:06,096 It is an experiment Baxter has performed many times. 83 00:14:06,096 --> 00:14:12,090 By inflicting pain on himself he hopes to register some reaction in the plant. 84 00:14:12,090 --> 00:14:16,085 It is proof Baxter feels of perception on an elemental level. 85 00:14:16,085 --> 00:14:21,080 All living things he believes react to the pain of another. 86 00:14:24,076 --> 00:14:27,073 For whatever reason the experiment fails. 87 00:14:27,073 --> 00:14:30,070 Perhaps Baxter has performed it too often. 88 00:14:30,070 --> 00:14:33,067 His reaction may not have been genuine. 89 00:14:34,065 --> 00:14:39,060 Baxter now tries the experiment with the insurge of staff member Kay Hoffman. 90 00:14:43,055 --> 00:14:47,051 I'm going to balance this in and turn it to automatic surgery in this case. 91 00:14:47,051 --> 00:14:49,049 And let it quiet down a bit. 92 00:14:50,048 --> 00:14:58,039 He calibrates the machine, this time in hope of achieving a response from the plant to the cutting of Kay's hand with a scalpel. 93 00:14:59,038 --> 00:15:03,033 You got a hand just there? Right here? 94 00:15:03,033 --> 00:15:08,028 Alright, now what I'm going to do is just to cut a little bit here. 95 00:15:08,028 --> 00:15:15,020 When you feel this, the thing that was going fairly calm is now going pretty well. 96 00:15:15,020 --> 00:15:19,016 I think the plant has tuned into your apprehension pretty nicely. 97 00:15:19,016 --> 00:15:21,013 Now let's see if it's tuned into this. 98 00:15:29,004 --> 00:15:32,001 Now I'm going to put some iodine in there. 99 00:15:35,997 --> 00:15:38,993 This time the results were positive. 100 00:15:38,993 --> 00:15:41,990 The plant has reacted in some way. 101 00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:47,983 Baxter can only conclude that it is a reaction to the pain felt by another living thing. 102 00:15:48,982 --> 00:15:51,979 Alright now, let me take a look at this with you. 103 00:15:52,978 --> 00:15:58,971 This is sort of interesting because through here we were doing nothing that related to this. 104 00:15:58,971 --> 00:16:03,966 And then we decided to ask you if you would sit down and let us cut your hand. 105 00:16:03,966 --> 00:16:08,960 And right here is where you had the invitation to sit down and your apprehension of doing so. 106 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,958 And here's where I'm starting the cutting. 107 00:16:10,958 --> 00:16:15,952 And actually your apprehension is worse than my putting the iodine in which apparently didn't hurt too much. 108 00:16:15,952 --> 00:16:17,950 In fact the thing quieted down. 109 00:16:17,950 --> 00:16:23,943 Well that was happening, but the idea of being cut and the cutting itself causes to go into this vibratory thing. 110 00:16:23,943 --> 00:16:28,938 So all the way through here you can see the changes that you may be able to match to your own mental set. 111 00:16:30,936 --> 00:16:36,929 Cleve Baxter is concerned not only with plants but with primary perception in all simple life forms. 112 00:16:36,929 --> 00:16:39,926 Bacteria is the simplest plant life. 113 00:16:39,926 --> 00:16:47,917 And Baxter believes the bacteria in yogurt also yields evidence of what scientists call primary perception. 114 00:16:47,917 --> 00:17:06,896 Alright now I'm going to take some yogurt into this syringe, wipe the excess yogurt off and fill the test tube with the yogurt which contains two kinds of bacteria used in dairy products. 115 00:17:10,891 --> 00:17:19,881 And I'm going to take the two silver wires that are being held and clamped into place by this little device. 116 00:17:19,881 --> 00:17:31,868 Put the two silver wires down into the yogurt and place them in a steady position with this little clamp. 117 00:17:31,868 --> 00:17:39,859 Baxter sees no difference between wiring the finger of a person to his lie detector machine and wiring a beaker of yogurt. 118 00:17:39,859 --> 00:17:42,856 The yogurt is alive too. 119 00:17:44,854 --> 00:17:48,849 But does the simple life form at work in the yogurt have feelings? 120 00:17:48,849 --> 00:17:58,838 And these leads go to the biological preamplifier up here and from there into the final amplification that drives the pen motors. 121 00:17:59,837 --> 00:18:04,831 How wide is the gulf between man and plant if there is a gulf at all? 122 00:18:06,829 --> 00:18:10,825 Now we're getting tracing from the bacteria in the yogurt. 123 00:18:14,820 --> 00:18:23,810 Now we're going to see what will happen when I take a capsule of antibiotic material and sprinkle it into the yogurt and stir it in. 124 00:18:24,809 --> 00:18:28,805 And as I stir it up, we'll see if it has an effect. 125 00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:33,799 Baxter has killed the bacteria growing in the yogurt. 126 00:18:36,796 --> 00:18:39,793 I would say that's not enough. 127 00:18:39,793 --> 00:18:43,788 There is no reaction from the other sample. 128 00:18:43,788 --> 00:18:48,783 It begins again with a fresh beaker and a different experiment. 129 00:18:49,782 --> 00:18:58,772 Now I'm going to take some milk and on the count of five pour the milk into the yogurt that I have in this beaker. 130 00:18:58,772 --> 00:19:05,764 Stir it up and usually it takes maybe 15 to 20 seconds for the bacteria to find the nutrient to see what happens. 131 00:19:19,748 --> 00:19:26,740 You have about a 15 to 20 second delay and then this is the kind of activity you get here. 132 00:19:32,734 --> 00:19:43,722 Well what I suspect is going on is that this yogurt is being fed the nutrient and the other yogurt is trying to find its own nutrient. 133 00:19:44,721 --> 00:19:46,718 It's not making out. 134 00:19:46,718 --> 00:19:51,713 It's not being fed anything and yet somehow it is aware that the other yogurt is being fed. 135 00:19:53,711 --> 00:20:00,703 To cleave Baxter, the inescapable conclusion is that even the simplest living things have feelings. 136 00:20:03,699 --> 00:20:10,692 If you've ever awakened in the night with a knowledge that something has happened to someone you love and found out you were right, 137 00:20:10,692 --> 00:20:13,688 you might have wondered who or what was the messenger. 138 00:20:13,688 --> 00:20:21,679 One intriguing idea presented by this trip through a world of other voices is the possibility that plants carried the message. 139 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:25,675 Apparently plants feel and hear and speak to each other. 140 00:20:25,675 --> 00:20:27,673 Can they talk to us? 141 00:20:27,673 --> 00:20:31,668 It's clear we have a lot more to learn by deciphering these other voices. 142 00:20:31,668 --> 00:20:38,661 By listening with the patience, this green world has apparently lavished on us for so long. 143 00:20:41,657 --> 00:20:49,648 As the races of man speak in different languages, so do the varieties of plants manifest their voices in different ways. 144 00:20:49,648 --> 00:20:53,644 They seem to be able to hear and understand us. 145 00:20:53,644 --> 00:21:09,626 Music 146 00:21:09,626 --> 00:21:14,621 For the time being, however, we must listen to them through our machines. 147 00:21:14,621 --> 00:21:28,605 Music 148 00:21:28,605 --> 00:21:32,601 One day, those machines may be unnecessary. 149 00:21:32,601 --> 00:21:37,595 Music 150 00:21:37,595 --> 00:21:45,586 Coming up next, FBI The Untold Stories investigates the brutal death of United Mine Workers' presidential candidate, 151 00:21:45,586 --> 00:21:48,583 Jacques Jowlonski, his wife and young daughter. 152 00:21:48,583 --> 00:21:56,574 Then histories, crimes and trials tracks the crimes, capture and punishment of killer David Berkowitz, 153 00:21:56,574 --> 00:21:59,571 aka the Son of Sound. 154 00:21:59,571 --> 00:22:07,562 Music